Sounds like Spring time has brought the usual spate of door-to-door scammers. Two visited our door over on 4th Ave NE across from the school. On Monday, a young man, probably in his mid to late teens, short, black and wearing rumpled clothes showed up at our door with a notebook he flipped open, explaining how we ought to “vote” for him to help him build his business of…getting people to donate to him or somesuch. We sent him on his way.
The next day, though, things got a bit uglier. Another man, similar description to the above except a bit older with a white polo shirt showed up with the same notebook and shpiel about voting for him, but when we laughingly told him he was too late, someone had already been here, he exploded in fury, angrily demanding if we thought this was a joke, screaming at us that this was serious as he walked to our neighbors house, whom he proceeded to excoriate for having a beard, and then on to the next neighbor’s house, where he told them they were rude because they were rich.
Apparently, we’re not alone in being afflicted with this visitor. On Twitter, we saw @fourchickens report:
Wow, guy just came to my door to do a pitch. I told him I don’t do business on my porch. He said, “That’s what snotty rich ppl say
He also asked me where my Jaguar is. And said, “my boss said folks who say no are rich and selfish.” I told him that’s not way to do this.
Indeed, it is not. Feel free to call the police if you see him around. Rounding out our story was this report from Gina:
Early this evening around 6pm a gentleman introducing himself as Shareef (Sharif?) (I forget his last name) told me he worked for a company selling magazine subscriptions, aiming to get his life back on track as a single dad and father of a teenage mother. There was no website or contact info that he could share with me, and didn’t have any sort of business card. But he was very complimentary, personable and well-spoken, and dressed dapper. Great pitch, actually, I wish I was looking to hire someone in sales. He showed me some documents with some addresses in Arizona and in Illinois, and when I asked just said “that’s where they are based. He had a long petition attesting to his good name, and suggested that many contributors decide to donate the full amount without getting another magazine. He said it’s up to “his boss” whether this neighborhood was one that he would be able to come to again.
I do not know if this is legitimate or not, but I have my suspicions. I didn’t really remember the name of the company that he said, so I couldn’t find anything online except this:
http://chicago.bbb.org/article/start-of-summer-signals-door-to-door-magazine-selling-scam-11011
Please, for the sake of your neighbors, don’t “buy” from these people.
I’ve also seen the gas man (http://www.wallyhood.org/2010/04/gas-man-cometh/) around the city lately at various off-ramps. Beware…
Yesterday I was doing yard work (36th St) and was approached by a man similar to the first description, again with this voting thing. I said “no thank you, I’m not interested” but what surprised me was that he didn’t leave with that and actually seemed to get very frustrated and angry because “he was out here working hard” etc. It is nothing personal but I do not deal with any solicitors. We had a woman knock on our door a few months ago with a similar “voting” request, who also seemed very defensive and frustrated from the outset of her pitch.
Yes, I get that it must be frustrating. But people are concerned for their safety and about the legitimacy of door-to-door solicitors, and this practice should be phased out by any legitimate charity or business. I wouldn’t even be happy if a well-known organization that I donate to showed up at my door–which happened last year. I choose to give to charities through other mechanisms and NEVER give to solicitors.
I had a similar experience with a fellow who fits description #2 the other day. He came to my door, and I politely said, “No, thank you”. He kicked my screen door and said “Go ahead and hide, your rude bitch”. I reminded him he passed by 2 ‘No Soliciting’ signs before he knocked on my door,, and he replied “So??!”
A law show be enacted that prohibits door sales to approach your home if there is a ‘No Soliciting’ sign displayed. Passing by the sign should be considered criminal trespass.
Those who don’t mind solicitors, religious missionaries, and petition representatives, can still accept their visits; but those of us who value our privacy and don’t want to be harrased should have SOME legal rights.
My past experience with these folks is that they won’t answer a direct (but polite) question about “Are you selling magazine subscriptions?” I’ve noticed a really hard sell and then after you say no they’ll send another person by later.
The AG’s office had a “Scam Alert” out a few years ago about one of these companies – http://atg.wa.gov/pressrelease.aspx?&id=23970
Wow, this is a pretty widespread wave of solicitations. This post and the comments are very helpful. I’ll be on the lookout now, thanks!
I wonder if these guys are prepping for a summer burglary run? I just wonder what they do when they show up at houses that are unoccupied. We should be watching for all suspicious behavior!
Last week two very well dressed and articulate African American men in their late 20’s came to my door with the same voting/magazine pitch. I was polite and told them no thank you. They both got angry and started berating me. I asked them politiely if they really thought they could intimidate me into giving them money? They both left angry. These folks are definitley scammers. I will buy almost anything that a child is selling who comes to the door…..however, the kids don’t come around much anymore because it is not safe……because of scammers like these. Sad thing is that there are probably people, especially the elderly who are intimidated into giving some money. I usually ask if they have a permit to sell door to door, or if they have some literature I can read and decide in my own time.
I opened the door for a dude who met the “life on track” description, about 6 mos. Ago. I didn’t get mugged, cased, buglarized, or anything. I now receive La Cucina Italiana magazine for my wife and mother-in-law. When you live in the city, you need to take calculated risks to interact with strangers. You chose to live amongst them.
But no one should threaten you if you choose to say no thank you.
I had one of the magazine people at the door. He was very nicely dressed, and was very presentable. I explained that I don’t buy anything from anyone who disturbs my privacy. He got rather nasty, said that he came all of the way from N. Carolina in an attempt to improve his life, and asked if I would rather that he be standing on the street corner selling drugs. I told him that I wished him well, shut the door, and locked it. I won’t answer the door again to anyone that I don’t know.
I’m betting a lot of these “salesmen” are knocking on your doors in the middle of the day. After, isn’t that when everyone’s home? They are casing your home, pure and simple.
My technique lately is to get my camera ready when they wait for me to open the door, ask for ID, and snap a pic of them and the ID before they can react. Then I helpfully inform them that I’m sure they’re nice, honest people, but if anything happens to my neighbors, I’ll hear about it. And guess whose photo I’ll give to the cops? It’s time to stop tolerating these guys as a consequence of “living in the city,” and start turning the tables on them.
Some door to door sellers are flat-out scammers, many are kids who are being scammed by magazine-selling outfits, who recruit poor kids, send them to another city, and force them (sometimes physically) to sell, giving them very little money.
If a young person comes to the door selling magazines, (and is not belligerent right off the bat) ask if they want to go home, and offer them a phone to call 917.579.4641 Parent Watch is an organization of concerned parents who will help send a stranded victim home.
Info on the “magazine sales” exploiters:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/21/us/21magcrew.html
http://www.parentwatch.org/contact.html
Yes, i get it. Surveil, interrogate and hang these lunatics by their toenails. We should batten down the hatches, and arm ourselves to protect our families because this neighbourhood is going to pot. No respect nor quarter given.
I look forward to reading similar reports in the future about us rejecting solictors with the following descriptions “Goretex strolling wear, brown leather sneakers, blue jeans, white man,” or, “white saltnpepper hair lady, oval glasses, funky socks and wallingford danskos,” or, “well he was ethnic but at least he sounded like he acheived a bachelor’s degree in something useful.”
@Pat, come on, the race card is too easy to play, here. These people are scammers and it is useful to post a description. If color of skin is useful in identifying them, it will be listed. If ear shape were useful at identifying people, I would have listed that, too. It would have been an easier story to write if they were white, but they weren’t.
And as soon as someone matching your description comes to my door and those of my neighbors and yells at us belligerently when I don’t give money, I’ll post that story along with the description here.
@Fruitbat, wow, thank you!
Once again, I get weary of these breathless accounts of black men and young people deliberately raising the blood pressure of innocent Wallingford residents by cruelly posing as solicitors (while in fact casing the joint for burglarizing) and using the unexpected opportunity of a cracked open door to spew toxic, angry tirades at the unsuspecting resident. Frankly, Wallyhood, I am disappointed in your stirring this pot again.
Please follow the oft repeated advice of so many on this blog: if you are uncomfortable talking to a “stranger” at your door, do not open your door and talk to a stranger. Look through the peephole or ask who it is. If you do not know the person, do not open your door. You might say: “I am sorry, but I cannot help you.” or ” I do not open my door for strangers.” Or you might just tremble silently behind your door until they leave. Or you can call 911 and tell them there is a stranger at your door. My guess is they will tell you not to open your door.
@Walkinroun: my wife was gardening in our front yard, when this man came up and started yelling angrily at her because she politely told him not interested. My neighbor doesn’t have a “peephole”. If someone knocks, he answers. I don’t want to live in a world where I have to screen everyone I speak to through a peephole.
This has nothing to do with race. I wish I could have left that detail out, but it would have been irresponsible to omit something that would be helpful in identifying people through a peephole.
We have a right as neighbors to talk to each other, share our experiences and use them to protect ourselves both from physical and emotional threats to our the well-being of our neighborhood body.
There are a lot of people who feel bad when they turn someone like this away and worse when they get yelled out. If I can help them by letting them know that they’re not alone, I will. That’s neighbors looking out for each other.
It seems like some of the people who are questioning the negative experience of dealing with these folks either haven’t met them or if they have met them haven’t seem what happens when you say “no.” I usually get them at the door but I’ve also had the experience of having them come by when I was out in the yard and it’s a lot harder to get them to move on.
Frankly I think the anger is manufactured and part of the pitch. In my mind it underscores the sense that these folks are scammers.
I think a great use of this neighborhood blog is giving all of us a heads up that these folks are back for their annual visit.
So, Wallyhood, what is your solution? You have put out the call that people should be on the alert for certain young black men in the neighborhood and to call the police if you see them. Do you really think, honestly, that anyone would look past “young black men” to try and size up your description? Won’t any young black man now seen in our neighborhood be regarded with suspicion by those hearing your alarm call? You are kidding yourself if you think that this does not feed into and contribute to stereotypical perceptions of young black men. Shouldn’t we all just be alert to door to door solicitors in general?
Obviously, I do not think it is okay for people to go around yelling at people. That is patently scary and intimidating. If someone acts threatening, I would advise people to immediately cease conversation, and close the door or stop what you are doing and get inside your home. If you continue to feel personally threatened, by all means, call the police.
But it is also reckless in a country with a complicated, tortured and twisted history and current practice of racism to think that putting out an alert to call police if you notice certain young black men in a predominately white relatively wealthy neighborhood does not contribute to the expression of this practice. You self-righteously disclaim the “race card”and protest that you just had to identify the race of the perp/s otherwise how could someone identify the bad guys “through the peephole”. I personally do not believe you have ill intent and I do believe you honestly think you are performing a public service. But I also do not think you are owning the unintended consequences of your alarm call. The fact is, most white people just do not have to learn about these consequences. They are borne on the backs of our minority populations insidiously, daily and cruelly over months and years and generations. It takes something of a gargantuan deliberate effort for a white person and/or a wealthy person in America to hoist themselves into the parallel universes that exist uncomfortably alongside us, until somebody’s anger or frustration or pain or desperation pierce our comfort zone. Then we are advised to call the police.
Wallyhood, I too appreciate the heads up. I also appreciate that you published a description that would actually help me identify them if they’re on my street. It was much more useful information than we get from most of the local press where skin color is rarely mentioned unless it’s white and photos are only published online.
Facing the the risk of virtual lynching for doing anything so brazenly un-pc as including skin color in a person’s description – or admitting to a conservative political viewpoint – is something I do not love about our neighborhood. Or our city, for that matter.
As someone who posted about my experience, one was a black man who approached me in my yard (not at my door), but the woman I mentioned was white. I don’t think people’s reports have anything to do with race. Unfortunately this neighborhood is not ethnically diverse so a description of anyone who isn’t white stands out. But I think people are upset by the threatening and aggressive behavior and not their skin color. In fact, I would add that I originally thought the man who approached me was a young man walking home from school (he is of slight build and was wearing something similar to a school uniform) and so I initially thought nothing of it. Until he was right next to me and wouldn’t leave, getting angry, making me feel uncomfortable.
@walkinroun,
If you are upset by the comments on this post I suggest that you stop reading them! Your neighbors are having a civil discussion. I haven’t seen one single ethnic or racial slur, just caring people warning others about some apparent scams going on.
Over 15 people have responded, and you are the ONLY one who appears to have issues. Are you right and the rest of the idiots wrong???
@walkinroun – In the not-quite-decade that we’ve lived in Wallingford, we’ve had one of these ‘vote for me’ young men show up about every other year. They’ve always been black, and it’s part of the pitch – they explicitly sell themselves as inner city kids/young adults turning themselves around by learning about entrepreneurship. It’s a relevant detail of the scam.
The only solicitor we’ve had turn abusive, though, was a legitimate one for the Seattle Times…
I had someone come to the door of my car last week as I was trying to get home to my kids from work. He was selling magazines & his eyes were at half open. He definitely appeared to be under the influence, (yes, I am qualified to make this assessment), and was very angry when I very politely told him I wasn’t interested in buying magazines. He continued by saying, “You’re not interested in helping someone turn their life around?” I told him to move away from the open door of my car and let me get into my house. He was quite agitated and threatening. I have two young girls and find comments (@walkinroun) that we should not follow our instincts that tell us when someone is a threat in some manner totally belittling and offensive. We are all welcome to chat up whomever we wish. We only benefit from listening to one another & communicating about potential threats to the safety of our families and neighborhood. As someone who has spent over 15 years in social services, I think it is wise to be alert and not open your door to people. There are much better ways to help the underserved.
Wow. Let me try to make myself a little clearer. If you describe someone wearing a blue jacket as being a potential threat, someone you should look out for, avoid and be prepared to call the police about, I guarantee that if and when you see anyone wearing a blue jacket you will be extra vigilant, slightly alarmed and likely feel frightened. Could Wallyhood have just issued a general caution about door to door solicitors and perhaps some reminders about good safety practices? Why would that be insufficient?
It might have been, walkinroun, but I resist the suggestion that omitting a salient part of the description (the only immutable characteristic of the participant) is better or required. I have this image of stories with thick black marker redacting all references to race, and I don’t think that being “color blind” helps our understanding of race and class, it obscures it.
For example, I’m a strong supporter of affirmative action. I believe that explicitly taking race into account when making hiring decisions in order to offset historical injustices and to create a sustainable diversity of wealth distribution is the right thing to do for our society. (Whew, lots of liberal buzzwords there, sorry). Not only can’t you do that if you pretend that race doesn’t exist, you can’t even realize that it’s necessary.
My goal wasn’t to draw attention to the race of the scammers. Including reference to race is not obligatory or necessarily helpful, but neither is omitting it. Knee jerk accusations of racism are more dangerous (or “reckless”) to discourse, IMO, because of of their stifling effect on communication.
I object strongly to any characterization that I am making “knee jerk” accusations of racism. Our country is a long way from resolution and this conversation is and will remain important for generations. Every community and neighborhood in America should be willingly and responsibly having deep, ongoing and rational conversations about race, gender, class and power.
From your cumulative posts I do understand you to be a strong supporter of affirmative action, etc., all the more reason why I think you need to take a strong second look at what I am trying to say. You assume that I am promoting some kind of color blindness. It is not color blindness but a kind of racial sensitivity, if you will, a recognition of the historical context of “walking while black”, “driving while black”, “working while black” and “living in America while black” that I am trying to posit. Some people may sneer about “political correctness”. Let them. I am suggesting that we need to learn, and relearn and learn again because our country is suffering mightily from gapping divisions that are ripping it apart. There are no easy answers, obviously. It is precisely because of that “only immutable characteristic” that I have posted anything at all here. People may protest that this incident is too small and insignificant to have any racial impact. But it is my belief that racism survives through the “thousand cuts”.
What would you do, how would you respond, how would you send out the alarm if all the players were white? Would you be completely stymied in providing any plausible description of the alleged perpetrators? Or would you basically rely on the fact that they were door to door solicitors who were prone to act out of line so people should be wary of any solicitors coming around?
In fact, I am suggesting that when you send out an alarm call as you did and as has happened several times in past posts where black men are particularly identified as people to be suspicious of or afraid of for various reasons (including the infamous Times guy) in this neighborhood of predominately white people you contribute willingly or naively or – in your case, somewhat defiantly – to historically documented racist stereotypes that percolate beneath and sometimes on the surface. What I am suggesting is that these “ring the bell” posts ultimately do more long term (insidious) harm than short term good. Far from pretending that race doesn’t exist, I am suggesting that you and all the rest of us work even harder to consider the effects and dynamics of race. Wallingford in particular and Seattle in general are pretty insulated places on many levels.
The most recent uninvited person ringing the bell at my front door appeared ot me to be a male between the ages of nineteen and thirty-five, wearing Levi brand jeans, a plain light green T-shirt with a pocket and a light gray hooded sweatshirt. The skin on his face, neck and hands was pinkish beige and his lips and cheeks and the tops of his ears were slightly pinkish. His hair was very dark brown, straight, not long, not short. I opened the door as I thought it was someone I was expecting, saw his clipboard and simply pointed to the small sign posted adjacent (besides the one he walked past as he entered the front yard) that simply reads: No: proselytizers or solicitors please!
It is printed in kid hand by a kid and there are happy faces all over it.)
VERY sarcastically he pointed out to me that he was a “canvasser,” not a solicitor. I asked him if he was looking for donations to his groovy green cause. “Indirectly” was his reply. I told him I would be right back, closed the door, came back as promised with a pencil in hand and added “Canvassers” to the list. Groovy green guy got pissed off at that point.
This is so not about race and perhaps making accurate descriptions of uninvited people in our gardens or at our front doors and not guesses about ethnicity would short cut this so the real work of social justice could get a move on.
Good Grief! So now its not PC to even include an accurate and factual physical description of people for fear of offending those worried about contributing to “racial stereotypes. There is nothing wrong wrong with giving descriptions of people passing through the neighborhood when it’s based on fact. How can you argue with the facts? So when the cops are looking for a suspect on the run, they can’t include a racial description that will aid in apprehending the suspect, just so they remain “racially sensitive?. What a ridiculous line of reasoning. The fact is, these particular solicitors were black. And that, in fact, has been my experience with them over the years I’ve lived here. Virtually all my solicitors have been young black males. Except for the occasional environmental canvasser, who of course, is always white (Oh I’m sorry, was that another stereotype?).
These are simply factual descriptions on who to keep an eye out for if they’re knocking on doors in our neighborhood, nothing more, nothing less. If some people subconsciously take those descriptions and apply them to a race as a whole, well that’s their problem, and they’re already prejudiced anyway.
@Hayduke
No PC intended. I have always thought these modern ethnic groupings are very vague for what could be specific information (that might even prevent the wrong suspect from getting arrested). When my mostly Caucasian kid was little he came home, happy to have made a new friend, Jesus (“hey-zeus”); I asked him if that Jesus was one of the black kids. He looked at me like I was crazy. He said, “Jesus is BROWN.”
I meant to add something to this discussion in a really nice let’s-all-get-along kind of way, fully knowing that blogs are not a very good arena for those kind of comments.
Imagine if you were poor/black/trailertrash and you ran out of gas. Would you want that to happen to you in this neighbourhood? Looks like we’re rolling out the welcome mat!
We’re a bunch of yuppies; mostly well-intentioned folk, but we scare very easily (and some of us apparently get uppity when we get scared). I’m glad we’re not in Leschi or this would be an even more difficult conversation to have. The real underlying issue I’m hoping to point out is broader than mere racism. Life would be simpler if everyone had their own Subaru, garden, and a shiny 401K, but this is not reality. Despite the best intentions of this thread, there’s a whiff not of simple racism, but unfortunately a more complex and common brand of classism surfaces from our subconscious from time to time. It deserves acknowledgement, perspective, and ultimately, empathy from we, the Haves. There’s more to being respectful than pointing to your pre-fab signs and making succinct yet polite dismissals. Be cool.
P.S. If there is an axe murderer loose, by all means, if the suspect looks like O,J. Simpson, please report that if it’s relevant.
I had one of these fellows ring my doorbell on Friday evening. I politely told him no, and he left without incident. Still, I’m not entirely comfortable with the idea of opening my door to strangers. In the year that I’ve lived in the neighborhood, that is really the only time someone I didn’t know rang my doorbell besides the US Census person, who was pretty clearly identified. I don’t know that it has anything to do with race. I think these days we’re just not used to strangers showing up at our doors, so when they do, we’re immediately a bit suspicious. That said, I really hadn’t really given that guy a second thought until I read this post here.
Well, I will sheepishly admit to having been “taken”, if that’s the right term. I massively overpaid for a 3-year subscription to Rolling Stone (how cliche, huh?) … we’ll see if I get it. I’m sure it was the same guys y’all have been talking about – one called “Nicholas”. My biggest hesitation is the thought that the kids are being exploited, probably getting a pittance of the $100 I spent (I said I overpaid, didn’t I?). But one bit of info for those interested: my receipt says “PS Circulation LLC”, at http://www.pscirculation.com, outa Phoenix AZ. The website does exist, FWIW, but I’m afraid to Google that and find out what a sucker I’ve been.The receipt says I had 3 days to cancel, but I didn’t read that in time – but I probably wouldn’t have cancelled, anyway.
I’ll let you know if/when I start getting the mag.
/r
Oh, and one other point that scarily jibes with the “casing the joint” scenario – they were very intent on asking me where I worked, what I did for a living, how long I’ve held that job, etc. On the other hand, they also asked what was my first job, what did I like about my work, and so forth, so it *could* be something more innocent like ‘encouraging the kids to find out what work is like’. I’ll hope it’s the latter.
/r
@walkinroun: I agree with you that there is a negative impact when race is included in the description. I also think there is a negative impact when race is intentionally omitted / censored.
As a writer, I have to make a decision which way to go. I think in my ideal world, I include it, and then a valuable discussion unfolds that causes us all to think harder about our beliefs and behaviors, perhaps offsetting the negative impact of reinforced stereotype. Thanks for making that happen.
@Wallyhood: AMEN!!! Good job!!
@Rob C:
Hopefully you paid with a credit card and not by check. If you paid by check, and Nicholas and/or the company he work for are scam artists, they would then have your name, address, routing number, account number, phone number, drivers license number, and any other information he may have been fishing for verbally. Could make you a target for identity theft.
I hope that’s not the case, but you may want to keep an eye on your account and credit files.
Same Guy stopped by at 530pm on around 25th. I missed the door knock and only saw him leave. But about this time last year, I had a magazine saleswoman show up at the door. She made her pitch and I shut her down with “no one reads magazines anymore”, but I will donate 5 bucks…she stormed off and said that wasn’t even as much as a subscription. I thought it was super weird. I hope they come back to try me again. Thanks for the heads up.
Ok, I am feeling a bit sick to my stomach now. I, like Rob, just gave to a lady that came to my door. She presented herself very well and although she asked questions, I kept any answer very vague. I did, however, write a check as I was more concerned about giving credit card information but now bmacke is freaking me out as to what I may have opened myself up to. She was not belligerent and even when I pulled back what I would give, she did not increase the pressure. Guh. I hate this…
Oh, Jenna, don’t let it get to you. Maybe she was legit, or somewhat legit, we don’t know for sure. I’d rather people took my money than my piece of mind. Likeliest outcome is that you overpaid for a magazine subscription. Not the end of the world.
My main beef is the guy who got belligerent when people said no, which is a different person than the one you were dealing with.
@Rob C:
Regarding pscirculation.com group, that domain name is registered to Andre Walker. It was created in March of this year. The name Andre Walker happens to be the name of the president of Midwest Clearing Magazine Sales, a distribution company, and its associated door-to-door arm, Paragon Sales. Paragon Sales is probably the “ps” in the domain name.
Google either of those companies along with door to door scams and you’ll find lots of information, BBB reports, news stories, etc.
I bought two subscriptions many years ago from a similar (the same?) organization and actually did receive my subscription. However, I’ve had neighbors lose their money and after I looked more deeply into it, decided I just can’t trust any of the groups. They knock on my door 2-3 times during the summer here in Salt Lake City. It’s unfortunate, because I do think a lot of the sales people are recruited with promises of bettering their lives.
They do play the emotional angle and are VERY persistent, but I’ve not had any of the encounters become confrontational. I do usually have to shut the door and walk away, but they’ve always left after that.
I am in the same boat as rob c and Jenna. I bought from pscirculation on 5/28/11 from a guy named Stephen Scott, and I live in the Tulsa area. I started wondering why I hadn’t rec’d anything yet and tried to put my receipt number in on their website, only to find it was “invalid.” I’m pretty upset and angry right now, but i have no other way to contact them. The receipt says it could take up to 150 days, which is ridiculous. Rob c or Jenna, have u rec’d anything yet?
I am happy to report that I have received three issues of my magazine of choice! I am sorry to say I forgot to report back here until AMC aksed… So that was the end of April… till a couple weeks ago – about 3 months! So keep hope alive, AMC!
/r
I just bought a subscription from PS Circulation LLC and am already fretting over it. I initially was going to write a check, but decided I’d rather risk losing the cash. Credit card wasn’t even an option. Oh well guess I maybe overpaid for subscription that may not ever come. Anyone else actually get these magazines?
I never got to the part of receiving anything as I mailed them within the three day time period they gave me to cancel. I also cancelled the check just to make sure. I would never have known if it was legit or not as I had also ‘donated’ my subscriptions to a shelter or something like that, as the solicitor said I could if I didn’t want them to come to my home… Just glad to have it behind me and will now be more careful as to who I talk with and give my information to.
To Rob C,
I just bought from PS Circulation 2 subscriptions. One to keep and one to donate to the boys and girls club of America. Did you donate any of yours? Will we actually get a tax refund on this?
Casey, I did not do that, and I don’t know the answer to that – sorry!
/r
you will not get a tax deduction
ps circulation is paragon sales owned by andre walker former owner of midwest clearing.